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Dips

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Posted - 21 Apr 2005 : 5:28:34 PM
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I've got a headache! Am totally baffled by the science of this!
However, perhaps this is an opportunity to try a few different distances! Even though some might not feel ready for a half marathon this year...it is a goal to work towards to swoop the prize next year.
Plenty of 5ks about apart from the Race 4 Life series. There is often a series of 5k races held monthly. I can think of 3 in Southern England without trying, so I am sure even the backward Norf of Watfords will have the occasional one! A good distance to flex those fast twitch muscles and you don't have to be female to do that!
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Jeffers1

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Posted - 21 Apr 2005 : 6:37:59 PM
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Can't actually see where its obligatory to run a half marathon.
Criteria clearly states 1 race of 10 miles +
As Dips says its a challenge to try new distances...you never know...you might even get to like them!!  
Carl, I agree at this moment in time there is only 1 race at 5k listed in Leicestershire and that being a BHF event is too steep at £15.00!!! However, there are 5k events at Southwell and Brownhills as well as a midweek series at Derby, none of which are much more than an hours drive away??
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aluaka

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Posted - 21 Apr 2005 : 6:45:32 PM
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As stated in the conditions of the Grand Prix we can review the rules for next year's Grand Prix - this is the first so there are bound to be niggles.
One of my thoughts was where I would get a 5k or 5 mile run from - but looking at the link which now features on the club website: http://www.ukresults.net/2005cal.html there seem to be a lot on offer in many parts of the country at different times of the year - so it shouldn't be an issue ? And as Jeff confirms the longest run does not have to be half marathon distance.
I hope we can all enjoy participation in what is intended to be a good bit of friendly competition and fun.
I certainly will be doing (and I didn't make the rules up - they were adapted from the Grand Prix of another running club and agreed at a club committee meeting !)
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fishyweb

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Posted - 21 Apr 2005 : 7:22:36 PM
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I have to concur that I would have preferred some flexibility in the race distances that have to be covered. Maybe provide 6 different distances, from which times for at least 4 have to be entered.
Just my tuppence worth...
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Dips

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Posted - 21 Apr 2005 : 7:39:14 PM
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For my more than a bobs worth!
I fail to see why more flexibility is required. Surely finding 3 set distance races in 12 months is hardly difficult. The 10+ has flexibility in itself already.
I think the least we can do is give it a go in its present format and work on any improvements for the following year should it be popular enough to continue.
Its meant to be a bit of fun guys 
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richard

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Posted - 21 Apr 2005 : 9:36:22 PM
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I personally have no problem with the rules, my comments were in repsonse to Carl who wrote
quote: Where are there any 5k races ???
there are none in Leicestershire, unless you are female ????
I dont think it should be mandatory to race in each catergory !!
1, Some people may not think they are ready to race over 1/2 marathon distance
2, 5k is not a popular distance unless you are female and you can run the race for life.
and Laura, who wrote
quote: There are 398 listed nationwide up to the end of this year according to the Runners World website
Having said that, I kinda agree. I didn't run any 5k's last year and I've never run a 5 mile (although I have found a local one to try). Some flexibility might be nice to maximise participation....
There are a number of 5k I can enter locally, so that is fine for me, the issue might be people who don't have a 5K available locally and so need to travel. From past experience people are a bit reluctant to travel any distance for a 20 min race, saying that I am travelling all over South and Mid wales this year to take part in cycling time trials that last 20 - 30 mins, and so are 120 other people (actual 119 enter in the one next Tues night). |
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fishyweb

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Posted - 22 Apr 2005 : 08:39:55 AM
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quote: Originally posted by Dips
For my more than a bobs worth!
I fail to see why more flexibility is required. Surely finding 3 set distance races in 12 months is hardly difficult. The 10+ has flexibility in itself already.
I think the least we can do is give it a go in its present format and work on any improvements for the following year should it be popular enough to continue.
Its meant to be a bit of fun guys 
I can obviously only speak for myself here... But, from my viewpoint, I enter relatively few races over a year compared to some of you. Domestic arrangements largely dictate this. Therefore, I pick and choose the events I enter based on preferred distances and locations. I have already picked most of the events for this year, and will not be able to fit many (any?) more in. There are no 5k or 5 mile races in my plans. There would have been a particular 5 mile race, but it falls too close to other events I'm involved in.
Therefore, being able to pick and mix from a larger number of different distances would have suited me. As it is, I probably won't be able to be involved in the GP this year for the reasons stated above. Although mildly disappointed (I would have enjoyed taking part), its not the end of my world. I realise it is just a bit of fun, honestly Dips!
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jen
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Posted - 22 Apr 2005 : 5:04:17 PM
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dont really understand all the postings on this thread but the idea of some friendly competition sounds good fun. |
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vslow

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Posted - 22 Apr 2005 : 5:22:33 PM
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quote: Originally posted by fishyweb I probably won't be able to be involved in the GP this year for the reasons stated above.
Surely you can be involved Steve - given that entry is free and requires no effort it seems pointless not to, regardless of race plans. I'm sure the details of peoples scores will be sufficiently clear that you can remove their 5k + 5 mile times yourself to see how you are doing relatively. It looks like a great way to measure ones improvement as a runner relative to other club members, while encouraging friendly competition on a more level playing field than the hall of fame. The motivation to get the highest score in 10k 1/2 etc is still there.
I think all UKNetrunners should enter (as long as they have at least one qualifying race planned before the end of the year). This is part of being a member of and supporting the club.
Regarding mij0's situation (and possibly other peoples who've not raced 10k). Given that the timing bands a presumably based on Reigels formula (or similar), surely the closest race to 10k can be used in the formula to determine their performance bands (or used to derive a 10k time) - then everyone starts based on last year. |
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fishyweb

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Posted - 22 Apr 2005 : 7:15:44 PM
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I guess by "won't be involved", I meant that I won't be able to meet all the entry criteria. Bad wording on my part, and I think I've given the wrong impression as a reult.
I'll still be submitting my times and watching others as well of course, but I just don't expect to be elegible to be in the final reckoning.
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Dips

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Posted - 22 Apr 2005 : 7:40:04 PM
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Don't forget we are talking a 12 month period here...The GP year does not end on 31 Dec 2005 along with other drunken activities. Many race organisers have not even set dates for 2006 so who knows what is round the corner.
I appreciate everyone has comittments, I too work full time, have family and various other distractions, but if you want something you have to juggle to suit.
Unless of course you guys are afraid us girlies will whip your a***s over 5k Come on feel the fear  
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Shank
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Posted - 22 Apr 2005 : 7:51:47 PM
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I'm shaking with fear!! 
Lets do it. Sure we're gonna have teething problems but that'll make next years even better, well done to whoever thought of this!!
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Jeffers1

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Posted - 23 Apr 2005 : 01:58:04 AM
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Guys n Gals
Just to clarify one point; this years GP will END on 31st December 2005. Next years event will commence from 1st January.
As for the battle of the sexes, have already got plans in hand to sabotage the girlies!!!    |
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Dips

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Posted - 23 Apr 2005 : 09:11:03 AM
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Opps sorry, teach me to read something correctly! 
So the competition tightens up now!
Jeffers....you have to catch us first I feel no fear 
Dips x Success is getting what you want. Happiness is liking what you get |
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Colin Wells

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Posted - 26 Apr 2005 : 12:33:24 PM
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Guys chill out - as dips said, its a bit of FUN.
I will not be entering as I only run for charity, and at present running in a Scooby outfit, I dont think a PB is on the cards for me in 2005, but have fun when running, and dont forget CHILL OUT
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