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Dips

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Posted - 06 Oct 2009 : 2:24:19 PM
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Almost instant reply from IVA. 
Thank you for your kind comments which I will, of course, pass on to all those who help, in so many ways, with the organisation of the race. I very much appreciate the other comments that you make. As you might expect, some have already been given consideration and rejected for one reason or another, but that doesn't mean that the matter should not be considered again. I will ensure that we give consideration to all the matters you raise at our forthcoming post-race 'Washdown' meeting to be held at the end of this month and I will let you know what has been decided. It is extremely useful for us to get comments from competitors since it is them who have to operate within the rules and conditions we set. That said, some clubs/teams are far better at reading, retaining and implementing rules than others. I have to say some just ignore the rules and it is those who spoil it for the rest! The referees were far tougher on miscreants than they have been in the past and that was good, but they can't be everywhere. With best wishes and, again, thanks for your excellent feedback. Regards, Ian
Dips x
"You are never too old to set another goal or to dream a new dream." C.S. Lewis
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Dips

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Posted - 07 Oct 2009 : 4:03:05 PM
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Been having a bit of a chit chat with IVA...
Am I right in assuming that manning a change over point would be too much to take on for a club of our size and availability?
How would you feel about marking out one of the off road stages?
It would probably need doing Friday afternoon/evening and from experience is best done with 2/3 people.
Thia could be advantageous 
Dips x
"You are never too old to set another goal or to dream a new dream." C.S. Lewis
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mdunn77

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Posted - 07 Oct 2009 : 4:20:03 PM
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I think it would be in our interest to do what we can to help. The event is run by a committee of Norfolk clubs, and the changeover points have been manned (this year) by local clubs - getting involved in the running of the event in some way as a non-Norfolk club would be great.
Manning a changeover point - I think it depends which changeover point.. points on the road and/or night changeovers would be bigger jobs than the early/off road stage changeovers. I think if we pulled together we could manage running one of the stage 1/2 - 5/6 changeovers.
Marking out a stage would definitely be doable.. typically we get at least 3 people there on Friday afternoon so this could be done reasonably easily.
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Dips

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Posted - 07 Oct 2009 : 4:29:10 PM
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Good suggestion Matt, what you would have to consider is that the last start time is about 12 noon so someone would have to be in place at a changeover until around 2pm. I realise this can be done in shifts by us but it does have to be built into the other support we need to give to the UKnet team.
However, I totally agree about giving something to RNR.
Dips x
"You are never too old to set another goal or to dream a new dream." C.S. Lewis
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MarkWillcocks

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Posted - 07 Oct 2009 : 4:50:38 PM
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agree would be nice to put a bit in.....as outsiders.......brownie points always count too.....
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Heavyweight

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Posted - 07 Oct 2009 : 6:33:08 PM
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Happy to do my bit in either marking on manning a stage end point. The stages points where you have you to organise the parking as well might stretch us as then 4-5 people would be needed rather than just 2 timers.
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fishyweb

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Posted - 08 Oct 2009 : 06:31:36 AM
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I agree that it would be great to get involved at that level. As a club, we get a lot out of taking part in the event, and it would be nice to put something back in (and the brownie points would not go amiss, either!).
I imagine that the later changeovers requires manning for a shorter period of time, as the teams should be more bunched as they get closer to the end, so that may be a consideration.
Hopefully, we would not need to be involved in too many meetings / briefings prior to the event, as distance could make that tricky.
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PeteStockdale

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Posted - 08 Oct 2009 : 09:56:11 AM
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Glad to hear the feedback was well received.
I think we could certainly offer our services in one way or other. We would definitely struggle to have two teams and man a changeover, but I think the second team was a long shot, so it may be in our interests to focus more on being involved in the running of the event, and have just one team, than try and spread ourselves too thin and ultimately not get as much out of the event as we could.
Thinking back to the later changeover points, the 15/16 changeover was certainly easily managable as the car park was large and access was simple. 16/17 on the otherhand, seemed crowded and as though it needed many more marshalls and traffic direction.
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LittleBigMan

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Posted - 08 Oct 2009 : 7:10:27 PM
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I think it would certainly be a good move for the club and it would be nice to give something back to RNR.
Agree with Pete too though that we'd be stretching ourselves too far if we intended to enter two teams.
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Dips

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Posted - 09 Oct 2009 : 08:42:54 AM
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I definately agree two teams is a stretch too far, as well as runners we would need time keepers and support which I don't think is doable.
Re: manning a changeover. Message from IVA. quote: Burnham Overy 2/3 as yet does not have a club responsible. Based on this year's timings the changeover would need to be manned from 8:30 am to 3.00 pm. At any one time there would need to be two people in attendance, but no doubt you would be able to organise a shift system of say 3.5 hours each.
How does this sound? Think carefully as I don't want to offer and then struggle to get the man power. When thinking about it, bear in mind we still have to supply our own team time keeping and some support. It is something that needs commitment, if we sign up to it then I will expect everyone to pull together and stick to thier offers of help.
I'm going to send an email out so as to capture those who do not visit the forum much.
Steve I don't think we would need to make any prelim visits as we know where the change over is and as long as IVA gave us a good breifing on the time keeping and any rules that should be enough.
Dips x
"You are never too old to set another goal or to dream a new dream." C.S. Lewis
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MarkWillcocks

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Posted - 09 Oct 2009 : 08:54:22 AM
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would like to run 3 next year....but that said would see this as doable.....as with a bit of tweaking i,m sure we can do it......plus most of the first few stages are quite hard to support on the road etc....it isnt until Cromer that the roads open up really is it??
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mdunn77

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Posted - 09 Oct 2009 : 09:09:07 AM
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| let's do it. I'll be up for a stint there - I'm hoping to run either one of the off road sections again or a sunday morning leg (17?) so I can definitely help out at 2/3 for a while and then join up with the rest of the team further on down the road. |
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MarkWillcocks

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Posted - 09 Oct 2009 : 09:15:24 AM
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maybe i can lose Matts keys next year......
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mdunn77

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Posted - 09 Oct 2009 : 09:18:15 AM
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LOL 
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Lazybones

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Posted - 09 Oct 2009 : 09:43:08 AM
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The UK gremlins have been at work again – the update I put on here yesterday afternoon has mysteriously disappeared, unless anyone took such great exception, it has been deleted. I am perhaps being a bit of a prophet of doom but nevertheless I will try again.
I think it would be very good to volunteer to help with RNR and would be excellent PR for UK. However I suggest we offer to mark out some of the off-road sections next year and during the event, whenever possible, observe how the checkpoints, particularly ones we have identified as possibles, are organized and perhaps talk to some of the people doing the tasks. We know from experience that we need a lot of people to support our own team, i.e. bikes, timekeepers, car, etc., and to provide quite a few more to man a checkpoint would perhaps be a step too far the first year we offer to help. If we take on some tasks that can be carried out on the Friday (I already take that day off to travel and would be happy to go up on the Thursday night) and then make plans using observations taken during the race, we would be in a much better place the following year to provide a well organized and efficient checkpoint thus enhancing the reputation of UK.
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