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Dips
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 Posted - 22 Sep 2009 : 2:58:12 PM
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On the feed back front, I have pm'd my thoughts to Pete..but agree a support car FAQ would be helpful. I agree with LB about bike and car support at night. I always watch for the runners/bikes coming through on the nearside and move out to let them through...imagine the fright I had when I moved out for the runner and the bike but the bike promptly came down the outside of me!
Also agree (and said in my PM) that I think a restriction of 2 teams per club/running community would allow for others to enter. Some good teams like the Stragglers missed out this year (by minutes) because of the saturation of other clubs and groups. Although I am assuming the Norfolk overload was down to it being some county 'do' this year.
As for us putting in more than one team, I think that is unlikely.
It certainly was easier this year and the fact that everyone pulled together and did a bit helped enormously. But stretching that good will across 2 teams is a big ask. Personally I would rather have one well supported and well oiled machine than 2 that are held together with pins.
I am more than happy to be chief organiser in 2010 but I suggest we revisit it in January when we have all come down to earth a little. Things change, life gets in the way and some move on...but for me, all being well, its a definate yes!
I really do appreciate all your kind words and thanks...but it really was a TEAM event and it wouldn't have happened without any one of us.
Lastly...I actually enjoy doing it, I wouldn't do it otherwise. 
Dips x
"You are never too old to set another goal or to dream a new dream." C.S. Lewis
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Dips
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Posted - 22 Sep 2009 : 3:18:31 PM
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I quote;
next year I am doing stage 11 .... the standards seem lower than stage 12, unless i have run a sub 2.30 marathon by that time ... * carries on dreaming *
 Yeah...dream on!
Dips x
"You are never too old to set another goal or to dream a new dream." C.S. Lewis
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StephenPrice
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Posted - 22 Sep 2009 : 3:20:34 PM
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Originally posted by MarkWillcocks
wait until you stumble across the one about the standard of runners in stage 11........
CANT BLEDDY FIND IT NOW....AND COULDNT COPY IT IN WORK!!!!!
basically he implied he'd do better in that than the leg he ran in!!!! ummmm???? don't think he won his leg.....
made me chuckle.....MALE CHICKEN!!!!!!
I saw that - it was Controversial (the user, not the comment. Although the comment might be considered controversial by some I guess). It's a fair point he raised and is partly why I went for Stage 11 this year. Paul Hasler has the record for stage 11 & 12 (he won 12 this year) and I took the gamble on him doing 12 again.
That said, Contro will have to get quicker if he wants to win stage 11. There are plenty of 2:45 marathoners drawn to that stage and his best is currently 2:55ish. He seems like a nice enough guy to me though so I wouldn't get too worked up over his comment. |
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StephenPrice
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Posted - 22 Sep 2009 : 3:22:15 PM
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| just to add, 2:30 might be a dream for him but I fully intend on being around that standard next year so will be going for a stage win agin in whatever stage I end up with. I also have my eyes on breaking some records one day too. |
Edited by - StephenPrice on 22 Sep 2009 3:22:41 PM |
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Dips
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Posted - 22 Sep 2009 : 3:34:12 PM
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I've broken loads of records...vinyl ones that is 
Dips x
"You are never too old to set another goal or to dream a new dream." C.S. Lewis
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lincsfella
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claire1
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Posted - 22 Sep 2009 : 9:36:43 PM
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LOl Lincs!
Pleae put me on the spreadsheet for 2010 Dips!
A leg before 2am please ... then I can support all day and stay up till the finish!
Failing that I will
bike support,
drive a car,
be 2nd Chief Cheerleader.. or even stand quietly by and clap...(ha ha ..if you believe that you'll believe anything! )
But please please please count me in! |
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colinhewes
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Posted - 22 Sep 2009 : 9:40:30 PM
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Re next year, I would like to be considered for stage 4 again. Now that I understand it more I can tailor my training accordingly and also avoid the hassle getting to the start.
I do have a particular concern about our participation next year. Is our objective to beat this year's time again, or to simply achieve the best time based on the runners who want to take part? I think that there is a danger here of us losing some of the enjoyment if we are simply trying to get faster and faster. What if we post a slower time next year, will we all feel deflated rather than elated?
Some club members might feel that they might not be good enough to consider putting their name forward for fear of letting the club down.
If we did have enough interest for 2 teams, would we have an A team for elites and a B team for the plodders? I would hate to see splits appearing in our club because we are getting too competitive.
Re vehicle support, I think transit style mini buses should be barred from this role as some of the roads are very narrow and it can be difficult to get past such vehicles when trying to overtake.
Alan - I don't think I qualify as a Norfolk club as I live 3 miles outside of the border.
Colin Hewes
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claire1
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Posted - 22 Sep 2009 : 9:41:22 PM
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Er....how did that happen?  
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Heavyweight
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Posted - 22 Sep 2009 : 10:04:18 PM
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| Colin - we had a bit of a similar debate about what our aim was this year. I think the concensus was that participation & enjoyment was the key rather than all out performance. I would hate it if any member felt that were not fast enough to put their name foward for the team. |
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MarkWillcocks
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Posted - 23 Sep 2009 : 04:43:58 AM
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yep....i didnt consider it too bad anyway Stephen, i guess that's why he put it up ..... bit of banter works.......but i,m thinking there are a few numptys over the fence.....
to consider it ok to disrupt others and be loud and boorish....the pizza debacle was embaressing....but eh...one thing though...why get it delivered??? why not f***h????
TONGUE VERY FIRMLY IN CHEEK....
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StephenPrice
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Posted - 23 Sep 2009 : 08:14:54 AM
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I do agree that some of the attitdues of "why didn't you tell us to be quiet" and the kind of who gives a **** attitude was wrong. It's a blood running event not a music festival!
On the subject of OUR aim for next year, I think we should be aimng to finish within the 28 hours allowed, to enjoy ourselves and to give a good representation of ourselves.
If we want to get competitive, let's aim to improve on our record for closest time to declaration - if we can do that we might get Alan/Brig collecting an award for the club
I made a point at the AGM this year that providing you have quicker people on some of the longest stages it allows for slower runners to also participate. It worked well this year and there's no reason why any of our club members (regardless of pace) could not have participated had they volunteered.
I was also shot down when suggesting that trying to meet the "Club" criteria would place an unneccessary burdon on us. At risk of opening old wounds, my view is that until we have sufficient membership to succesfully enter 2 teams, we should always enter in the "open" category (which is only for affiliated clubs). If we then fill spaces with sufficient number of women (& vets?) we can swtich to "Club".
On a personal level, everyone will have their own agendas and scores to settle and that's fine. The aim for the club as a whole should be to have an enjoyable weekend. |
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aluaka
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Posted - 23 Sep 2009 : 08:33:06 AM
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Some great points there Stephen - and I agree that the key issue is to get round within the required time and allow as wide a range of ability runners take part as possible.
If we aim to get quicker each year - which we could given the skill base of the club now - then it will go against what UKnetrunner is all about.
Also, note for future years - if there are any team prizes won I would like the Team Organiser (ir Brig this year) to be the one who collects on behalf of the club (to reflect the efforts put in!)
I made noises about entering as the full "club" criteria - and I admit I was completelty wrong - it wasn't neccessary! There was no issue at all of being in the "Open" category.
I would like to "RUN" a stage again next year - not a long one - half marathon distance or less for me - and I know Bren is very keen to be involved on the running front.
Alan Lacey
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PeteStockdale
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Posted - 23 Sep 2009 : 09:19:03 AM
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Thanks to everyone who has given feedback - either on here or by PM. I'll give others a few more days to give their thoughts before I draft something to send to the organisers.
Re next year, Zo and I are very keen to be involved. Regarding our stage preferences, I am happy to do anything and will do the long night stages if needed. Zo would like something slightly longer (6,7,8,14,15?), but not too long, and if we need to tweak things to meet the time limit then I think she'll be happy with anything (although she does hope to be quicker and covering longer distances this time next year, so we'll see). Our other request that we have stages that aren't too far apart in terms of time. What we did this year was a bit of a struggle in terms of getting back from Geldeston to Kings Lynn and Zo getting enough sleep to run in the morning. I think Claire and Mike had a similar issue, so it is worth bearing in mind.
Regarding our goals for next year, I agree completely that providing we meet the time limits and that we appreciate it is a race (and thus that each runner should try to go as quick as they can), the emphasis should be on maximising the enjoyment for anyone who wishes to be involved. The way things are likely to pan out, if people run the stage from which they feel they will get most enjoyment and feel they have contributed to the best of their ability, we would probably be close to our optimal time anyway, so 'time-limits' and doing a time which relfects well on the club shouldn't be a problem.
Whilst I think we may struggle to get two teams, if we were to have two then maybe a masters team, and a 'junior' team may be a good split. Our skills seem to be evenly spread across the age range, so one team wouldn't be left way behind (or have to start at 5am) and it could provide some healthy competition within the club.
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Lazybones
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Posted - 23 Sep 2009 : 1:15:19 PM
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I totally agree with Colin regarding the minibuses. The roads and parking areas generally are too small to cope and they create hazards.
When I was "between" car moving duties in Great Yarmouth I saw several drop off and pick up runners, mostly with no more than two passengers in each. A couple did come in with three or four but went out again with two. Very few had more passengers than an average car could carry. They are a nightmare with night support as when following them, that is all you can see so have to pull out to see if there is oncoming traffic and cannot see the position of their runner or whether they have bike support. Obviously too when doing night support they are not transporting runners so do not need the extra passenger space.
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