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Dips
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 Posted - 01 Sep 2009 : 4:44:22 PM
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NO! I am on a diet...lost a couple of pounds last week.
Dips x
"You are never too old to set another goal or to dream a new dream." C.S. Lewis
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mdunn77
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Posted - 01 Sep 2009 : 5:02:01 PM
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ooh bacon butty.. yum
that reminds me - I have some leftover burgers and sausages from the BBQ at the weekend that need cooking - protein rich dinner tonight!  |
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joopsy
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Posted - 01 Sep 2009 : 5:55:04 PM
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Peanut butter on toast for me Matt, food of the gods.
In't running brilliant. |
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mdunn77
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Posted - 02 Sep 2009 : 6:49:12 PM
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Tue 1st Sept: 45 mins spinning
Wed 2nd Sept - 8.41 miles - 01:21:57 - 9:45 - avg hr 71%WHR/152bpm
A good lunchtime run in the new f-lites. Achilles still improving.
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Dips
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Posted - 02 Sep 2009 : 9:38:53 PM
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Was thinking about you and your shoes this whilst holed up in the gym this lunch time. My initial thoughts were silly fool...but having looked further into barefoot running I can see the logic. I'm about to start a Diploma in Sports Injuries so might be calling on you as an guinea pig for my essay!
Just been reading this article and found the bit on chronic injuries and more so plantar fascia quite interesting
http://www.sportsci.org/jour/0103/mw.htm
Dips x
"You are never too old to set another goal or to dream a new dream." C.S. Lewis
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mdunn77
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Posted - 03 Sep 2009 : 08:20:01 AM
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That's a great paper Dips. These two bits in particular are something I've definitely found when running in shoes with less support.
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When running barefoot on hard surfaces, the runner compensates for the lack of cushioning underfoot by plantar-flexing the foot at contact, thus giving a softer landing.
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Barefoot runners also land mid-foot, increasing the work of the foot's soft tissue support structures, thereby increasing their strength and possibly reducing the risk of injury.
In my f-lites, I can actually feel the ground with the soles of my feet when running. The difference compared to when running in shoes with more "supportive" soles is quite pronounced.
During most of the year (apart from in very cold weather), I'm usually barefoot at home, in the garden, etc.. in fact I'm known to only wear socks at work quite often too.
There are various articles, books etc about this subject, but I've not seen many real studies.. more at http://www.barefootrunner.com/2009/07/baring-your-sole and http://wellness.blogs.time.com/2009/08/20/do-fancy-running-shoes-do-more-harm-than-good/
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Heavyweight
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Posted - 03 Sep 2009 : 08:42:34 AM
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in fact I'm known to only wear socks at work quite often too.
...there should be laws about that!! 
The shoe topic is very interesting. I'm reasonably convinced that minimum support/cushioning/barefoot is a good goal to have - but you have to be so very careful about how you get there.
Sophisicated footwear clearly helps lots of people increase their ability to build up their training, by compensating for bio-mechcanical issues but perhaps does not actively help reduce those issues. Maybe this results in you becoming more & more dependant on corrective footwear if nothing is done to resolve the underlying problems.
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mdunn77
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Posted - 03 Sep 2009 : 09:01:23 AM
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Lol, ok.. Not only socks  |
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Dips
4076 Posts |
Posted - 03 Sep 2009 : 10:49:06 AM
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I'm with HW on the not addressing the underlying problem and using corrective shoes. I wonder if we are creating or helping problems with the advancement in technology?
I have a VERY expensive appointment with a Pod next week and was told on the phone that the fee will include orthotics. I am a bit concerned that I am going to be shoe horned into the orthotics brigade just because that is what is normally done...especially as she hasn't even seen me yet.
Now put some clothes on Matt...your catch your death!
Dips x
"You are never too old to set another goal or to dream a new dream." C.S. Lewis
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fishyweb
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Posted - 03 Sep 2009 : 11:17:23 AM
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Originally posted by Dips
I have a VERY expensive appointment with a Pod next week and was told on the phone that the fee will include orthotics. I am a bit concerned that I am going to be shoe horned into the orthotics brigade just because that is what is normally done...especially as she hasn't even seen me yet.
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That is crazy. How can she possibly know that you need orthotics? Just does not make sense. Although I'm an orthotics user myself, I'm quite cynical about them now, and am less than confident that they should have been prescribed for me. I quite fancy finding a way to ween myself off them.
BTW, that article about barefoot running was very interesting indeed. Shoes, and orthotics, seem to be a self-perpetuating money spinner!
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Sorry to hijack your diary, Matt!
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Steve
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Dips
4076 Posts |
Posted - 03 Sep 2009 : 11:22:36 AM
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Steve I agree...BUT I am in the depths of despair/try anything mode as well as cynical!
Dips x
"You are never too old to set another goal or to dream a new dream." C.S. Lewis
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mdunn77
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Posted - 04 Sep 2009 : 12:26:29 PM
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Thu 3rd Sept: rest
Fri 4th Sept - 18.81 miles - 03:10:00 - 10:06 - avg hr 71%WHR/152bpm
First run of this sort of distance since Edinburgh, and it's all come back to me now I was very prepared though - had my backpack on, bladder full of nuun and a packet of shot bloks in my pocket. Lovely morning for it too - sunny but not too warm. |
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StephenPrice
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Posted - 04 Sep 2009 : 2:33:12 PM
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Matt, good long run there. I've recently started going long again and it's surprising how quickly you get used to it again.
just to wade in on the shoes topic. I've been using Nike Free 3.0 for a while now. Unfortunately I only have one pair and they're very difficult to track down in the UK in the right size. I'm pretty convinced that my PF problems are made worse by supportive shoes and much prefer my Nike Free or my racers (I wear racers for speedwork and, erm, races) I would like to get away from supportive trainers completely but it's a gradual thing.
It was the "Brain Training for Runners" book that got me on to it and like Matt I did some research on the web. I've read enough to believe that shoes are over-engineered these days and a back to basics approach could be beneficial. |
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Dips
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Posted - 04 Sep 2009 : 4:17:01 PM
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I have been making every effort to walk around the house barefoot last couple of days..and whether it is in my head or not, my foot does feel slightly better. Not keen on going out amongst the slugs though  My feet do get cold so have found a pair of loose grippy socky cosy toastie things that my Mum bought me...just the jobby. 
Have cancelled Pod appointment in favour of a bit of manipulation with the Fizz.
Hummmm...think I should be updating my own diary not yours!  So well done on your run Matt...I am so looking forward to a long slow run.
Dips x
"You are never too old to set another goal or to dream a new dream." C.S. Lewis
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mdunn77
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Posted - 04 Sep 2009 : 4:50:54 PM
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Stephen - I had some free 5.0 a while back but didn't like the thick soles. Perhaps the 3.0 have a lower profile sole - I've not seen any because, as you say, they're not widely stocked.
Dips - glad it seems to be helping. It may be just a placebo, but if it's feeling better, who cares? |
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Matt's 2009 Diary
