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krissienewton
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 Posted - 09 Oct 2008 : 6:36:28 PM
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I was wondering the same as Matt, how is decided whether we move up a band or not? I have performed above my band for 5k but not for the others. I really don't want to move up a band, I won't end up with any points next year!!
Krissie
Get up and walk if you have to, but finish the damned race - Ron Hill |
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lincsfella
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Posted - 09 Oct 2008 : 7:23:15 PM
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Your banding is changed At new year. I ended up with band 5 because its based on your best performance the previous year, i had a storming run (by my standards ha ha) at GER which unfortunately threw my normal banding assesment out the window. Hence my poor showing in the GP this year. Ask me if id swap to a slower time for a half last year for a better banding (yes i admit to having a bit of a chunter bout it at the time).... id answer no. Whilst ive had a carp GP..... being band 5 has helped me to believe there is life in the old dog yet and still pushes me on.
Look at your best performance of the year...... match it with the banding table and youll have a rough idea of where youll be at for 2009. Does that make sense??
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fishyweb
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Posted - 09 Oct 2008 : 7:33:30 PM
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I thought your banding for the next year was based soley on your best 10k showing of the current year - assuming you've run at least 1 10k of course. I'm going purely on memory, so am probably totally wrong!
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krissienewton
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Posted - 09 Oct 2008 : 7:43:33 PM
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yep, just saw it under the grand prix table, best 10k time. Looks like I will be moving up from 16 to 15 and will have to run my butt off next year!
Krissie
Get up and walk if you have to, but finish the damned race - Ron Hill |
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lincsfella
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Posted - 09 Oct 2008 : 7:51:04 PM
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There was a bit of a rule change to best performance. Its a good motivator though.
"Always aim for the moon...... because if you miss, you'll still land amongst the stars" |
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StephenPrice
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Posted - 10 Oct 2008 : 09:59:01 AM
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Originally posted by fishyweb
I thought your banding for the next year was based soley on your best 10k showing of the current year - assuming you've run at least 1 10k of course. I'm going purely on memory, so am probably totally wrong!
That's what it says on the website but my half marathon time was used for my banding.
Spare a thought for me guys, I think I'll be band 0 next year! |
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PeteStockdale
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Posted - 10 Oct 2008 : 10:04:22 AM
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I'm considering printing out a small copy of the bandings to laminate and carry around with me at all races to ensure I don't accidentally slip into a higher bracket. PBs are very nice, but it's all about maximising the GP points isn't it?!  
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fishyweb
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Posted - 10 Oct 2008 : 10:16:25 AM
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Originally posted by PeteStockdale
I'm considering printing out a small copy of the bandings to laminate and carry around with me at all races to ensure I don't accidentally slip into a higher bracket.
LOL!
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Dips
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Posted - 10 Oct 2008 : 11:45:46 AM
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Krissie, at least you can join me in propping up the boys! Keep them on their toes too. I did enjoy a little luxury of being on top for a couple of weeks 
Personally I think there should be some kind of award for the top female in the GP, we are after all a minority and its hardly a fair comparision when pitched against those long legged speed driven males...that or we are given some slack in our banding. 
Dips x
Running is real and relatively simple…but it ain't easy.
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Wicked D
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Posted - 10 Oct 2008 : 3:14:03 PM
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Dips - thats a great point "some kind of award for the top female in the GP", I'm not sure if I'll be at the next AGM but is something I feel should be on the agenda (before the meeting as well)
the Grand Prix works well as is now BUT I feel there should be a Ladies award from within the GP, after all the club is growing and local clubs do the same, this would get my vote
"If you're going through hell, KEEP GOING"....W Churchill |
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Dips
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Posted - 10 Oct 2008 : 3:27:54 PM
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Your redeeming yourself
It would be good to see you at the AGM Wicked, so I hope you can make it. Last year saw a fine turn out and this year looks to be even better. How different from the early days and how good to see.
Dips x
Running is real and relatively simple…but it ain't easy.
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StephenPrice
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Posted - 10 Oct 2008 : 3:32:07 PM
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Sorry, but isn't the whole point of the GP that everyone is on a level playing field? The scoring system is based on your performances against your own times. Therefore, it is equally possible for a female to win as it is a male, if they perform well against their own best.
The leader of group 1 this year is Shaun, because he has performed better than others in relation to his own best times. If any of the ladies in the club had had as good a year as Shuan then they'd be up there with him.
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StephenPrice
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Posted - 10 Oct 2008 : 3:42:10 PM
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| I guess the only thing that the GP doesn't take into account is the effect of ageing. As your band is based on your previous year's best, and generally speaking you get slower as you get older (not true in all cases obviously), it seems more difficult for people whose times are slowing because of age to compete with the rest. Although a WAVA based system may be more tricky to implement. |
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Dips
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Posted - 10 Oct 2008 : 4:16:11 PM
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True  Oh well it was worth a try and I am definately not taking away Wicked's acheivements.
I still think a bit of recognition wouldn't go a miss...it might encourage other ladies to take part as we definately are a minority.
Although I am guessing that we will see at least 4 more ladies in group one next year so maybe we stand a better chance.
Dips x
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krissienewton
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Posted - 12 Oct 2008 : 5:47:59 PM
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Originally posted by StephenPrice
I guess the only thing that the GP doesn't take into account is the effect of ageing. As your band is based on your previous year's best, and generally speaking you get slower as you get older (not true in all cases obviously), it seems more difficult for people whose times are slowing because of age to compete with the rest. Although a WAVA based system may be more tricky to implement.
We have an age graded league though don't we?? Could it not work in a similar way? I am frequently pondering over the age and performance thing though, and whilst in the shorter (5k and 10k) races that I've done I've noticed that the more mature runners that I know are not as speedy, they seem to perform better and still be getting pb's at the longer distances. At the Kernilworth half last week a runner from my local club (aged 70) did 1.48 compared to my 2.03 yet when we train he is at the back of the bottom group for intervals etc and I am in the middle of the middle group. And in some of the Fell/MT races that I've entered I've often been the youngest entrant. I guess that this would depend on the level as obviously Haile wouldnt be able to run at his pace when he is 70 but it seems that reaching a certain chronological age obviously doesn't automatically mean a decrease in the ability to produce pb performances.
Krissie
Get up and walk if you have to, but finish the damned race - Ron Hill |
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